Posted by JA
on November 16, 2008, 2:12 pm, in reply to "Re: Ryan Capes: Between the Motos at Racer X"
4.227.14.106
Sometimes promoters make the deadly mistake of thinking that if they simply hire the famous guys to do a show, that there will be a big crowd. That's not what puts butts in seats.
They have to promote the event. That means they have to pay money for advertising in the right places, get people on the ground promoting it everywhere that counts, and the news media should give it some publicity. Unfortunately, if the newspapers, radio stations and TV stations aren't getting paid in advance of the event, they won't mention it. They won't lift a finger to help put butts in seats. Only after the event is over will they mention it. Their greed, combined with the greed of the promoters, hurts attendance. It's a vicious cycle. Why should promoters do anything? It's too risky for many of them. They won't advertise, so they don't get the spectators.
Sometimes they promote an event that is happening at the same time other big events are going on, or during a down time in consumer spending. That can kill attendance.
JA
--Previous Message--
: It would be cool Chris.. But, They tried
: something similar (U.S. Crusty Tour 2005)
: and it hit the wall here. Australian MX Fans
: show up in record attendance(Tens of
: Thousands) and the Crusty show we had in the
: U.S. had like 3,000 if that..
: I really dont understand why?
: We have more than enough fans.. Supercross
: is always packed.. IT seems like the Larger
: FMX shows have pretty darn good attendance..
: For some reason.. Distance Jumping isnt
: drawing the record crowds in the states like
: it once was back in the "Cycle Jumper
: Era".
: I would love to see a
: Bird-Capes-Maddo-Seth-Trigger jumpoff here
: in the states!!
: Will it ever happen?
: We can hope, We can Pray.
:
: --Previous Message--
: I heard that the event was a demonstration.
: Considering the conditions, each jumper
: performed incredible. Just to see Seth hit
: his goal of 300 feet was awesome. It would
: be cool if they had that type of event in
: the states soon.
:
: --Previous Message--
: From Maddo's Dad..
:
: Well ....yer.
:
: Maddo went 378 feet in practice the day
: before in front of the Guiness World Records
: scrutineer.
:
: Maddo's problem on the night was trying to
: get the power down on a 60+HP bike into a
: headwind on a wet track.
:
: Ryan was awesome too but he's probably over
: 20lbs heavier than Maddo and his bike is
: 15lbs heavier with four stroke gyro
: stability.
:
: In high wind conditions Ryan's set-up is way
: more stable but in good conditions the
: lighter set-up will go further. Maddo WILL
: go 400 feet with the current bike.
:
: Ryan wasn't going to bust his butt 12000
: miles from home in those conditions, he
: broke the record, picked up his cash and
: came home in one piece. That's just being
: smart.
:
: When you talk to the guy he's a regular nice
: guy, don't rag on him based on his public
: speaking, he's different off the bike.
:
: Great work from Seth to join the four
: member, 300' club. Bird, Capes, Enslow and
: Maddison.
:
: (Maddo's Dad is a Good Guy!)
:
: --Previous Message--
: So the Whole Austrailia Jump off( Night of
: records 2) was fake(Mock)?
: It sure seemed like Maddo wasnt just putting
: on a show. He almost died twice going for
: those records.
: Here is an earlier article before the event.
: WIND PLAYS HAVOC FOR WORLD RECORD TRAINING
: AS
:
: RIVALRY INTENSIFIES AMONG CONTENDERS
:
: Crusty Demons legend Seth Enslow proved
: today why he his known as the craziest of
: them all when
:
: he geared up and hit an astonishing distance
: jump of 160 feet despite extremely strong
: gusty side winds that swept throughout
: Melbourne today.
:
: With no one else willing to jump, Seth
: ordered his take off ramp to be adjusted
: slightly to the left, knowing that the
:
: strong winds would push him to the right,
: and launched himself 70 feet in the air.
: After landing the first jump he
:
: decided to go for another which almost ended
: in catastrophe.
:
: A huge gust of wind pushed Seth two whole
: metres to the right whilst up in the air
: causing him to draw on all of
:
: his years of riding experience to escape
: what was almost a terrible crash.
:
: “I was really keen to get out there and jump
: today so I just went for it despite the
: wind,” said Seth. “The first jump was fine
:
: but the wind picked up as I was in the air
: on the second and it was a very sketchy
: landing. I hate to think what
:
: would have happened if I wasn’t able to pull
: it together.”
:
: With jumping called off, Australia’s Robbie
: Maddison was practicing his take off speed
: and was reaching speeds of almost 200 km/h.
:
: “I am scheduled to go second on the night
: which is going to be a definite
: disadvantage. Capes is last so he will know
:
: exactly what he has to jump to beat me,”
: said Maddison.
:
: “This just means I will have to go out and
: there and jump a distance I know he won’t be
: able to match.
:
: I have prepared my bike to reach speeds of
: 200 km/h which can push me to 400 feet so
: that is the distance I am going to jump.”
:
: Capes was quick to fire back at Maddison. “I
: know I have the advantage jumping last and I
: am going to make
:
: the most of it. If Robbie jumps 400 feet
: than I will go further. The record is going
: to be mine.”
:
: Robbie Maddison, Seth Enslow and Ryan Capes
: serious approach and painstaking preparation
: ahead of this Saturday evening’s jump was
: clearly evident.
:
: “A lot goes into planning for this event and
: this particular jump, you need to consider
: everything to get it just right,” said
: Maddison.
:
: “Fitness is definitely a key, as is
: confidence. You need to be 100 hundred
: percent committed otherwise you risk falling
: short and taking a very big fall.”
:
: “Having three of us going for the same
: record is going to be interesting – the mind
: games have already started,” he claimed.
:
: Maddison starred in the celebrity race at
: the recent Australian Grand Prix and Enslow
: said it was now his turn to take centre
: stage.
:
: “Robbie’s had his turn, now it’s mine,”
: quipped Enslow.
:
: “I’ve been putting absolutely everything
: into my training and have been bettering my
: own jumps consistently in practice.”
:
: “We’ll see who can pull it off on the night,
: there could be some surprises.”
:
: Based in the United States, Capes and Enslow
: have had the chance to train together prior
: to the event and are both acutely aware of
: each other’s strengths.
:
: Capes rallied the argument, stating that
: when it came to crunch time, he knew he
: would have what it takes to hold off both
: Enslow and local hopeful Maddison.
:
: “I’ve been training with Seth so I can read
: him pretty well, he’ll talk it up but we’ll
: see who actually delivers on the night,”
: said Capes.
:
: “Robbie will be tough to top, but I know I
: can just out jump whatever he dishes out on
: the night!” Capes Said.
:
: This attempt will round out what is set to
: be an incredible evening of entertainment.
: As well as 17 other
:
: separate world record attempts, the event
: will feature an integrated pyrotechnics
: display and the sounds
:
: of home-grown talents Dead Letter Circus,
: Mammal and Kill the Capital.
:
: There will also be a full Crusty Demons
: freestyle show with star riders including
: world number one Nate Adams
:
: and X Games gold medalist Adam Jones as well
: as freaks and the gorgeous Crusty Babes.
:
: The purpose-built down-ramp which is the
: biggest ever constructed had its first real
: test today. It is 30 feet high, 125
:
: feet long and 60 feet wide, and uses 16,000
: tonnes of dirt, costing a total of $300,000
: to create.
:
: In total, the arena contains 30,000 tonnes
: of dirt and cost promoters over one million
: dollars to create.
: __________________
:
: --Previous Message--
: Good point. I sometimes think about a bike
: taking a jumper faster than terminal
: velocity, and try to imagine the tremendous
: force trying to rip the rider off the bike.
: S C A R Y! It wouldn't be much fun to be a
: hundred feet off the ground at 130 mph and
: get ripped off the bike like an autumn leaf!
:
: Sometimes we talk about terminal velocity
: and the problems that will occur as Capes
: goes faster and faster and approaches
: terminal velocity. The drag is so strong at
: that speed. I remember doing 135 on a street
: bike, sitting upright and WOW, was the drag
: strong. If I would have tried to put both
: hands above my head, the drag force would
: have ripped me off of the bike!
:
: I do think that if it was possible, it would
: be super aerodynamic for the rider to do a
: Superman at such speed, but one problem
: would be fighting the drag to get back on
: the bike! Another problem would be using the
: rear brake to adjust the pitch.
:
: JA
:
: --Previous Message--
: Not to be a grammar Nazi, but terminal
: velocity is when the downward force of
: gravity equals the upward force of drag.
:
: The 'top end' of a dirtbike is not terminal
: velocity. It's a mechanical limit.
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