Posted by flipper
on May 27, 2009, 7:17 pm, in reply to "A veritable flatlanders' fiesta"
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Bob Gill made one ramp to ground at 252 way back but he said he never counted it because after he landed he ran through some oil on the track and slid down. I think it should count because he had rode it out at that point, it was way down the track and he was about to turn around and had nothing to do with the jump. he does have film of it, I think its online somewhere like youtube. I'll ask him if he can send me a link. anyway I wish Ryan good luck!
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: Mother Earth can provide a veritable
: flatlanders' fiesta, as reasonably flat
: areas of roads, fairgrounds and racetracks
: abound, and they provide all the landing
: ramp a flatlander will ever need.
:
: While ramp to ramp practitioners are
: surgically precise with regard to speed or
: they simply die, flatlanders throw caution
: to the wind and typically have no device
: with which to ascertain their velocity. It
: matters not whether they jump a little
: short; they'll never suck ramp. It matters
: not if they jump a little long; they can't
: miss the landing ramp, which is no landing
: ramp at all.
:
: True, ramp to ramp jumpers land softer, but
: at a price in danger. Their launch ramps can
: be significantly steeper than the launch
: ramps used by a flatlander, so they can fly
: four times as high and come down at a steep
: angle, only to be intercepted from their
: trajectory by a steep landing ramp, landing
: softer than the flatlander. If the ramp to
: ramp jumper misses his landing ramp, his
: impact with the planet is horrifyingly
: powerful, and survival then hangs on a thin
: fiber indeed.
:
: Flatlanders, in an attempt to hype up a
: long, flat trajectory ramp to ground, might
: say that what they are doing is more
: dangerous than what a ramp to ramp jumper
: does, but that is simply not accurate.
: Simply landing harder on flat ground does
: not make the jump more dangerous. Sure, a
: flatlander might break spokes, bend rims,
: break hubs, bend footpegs down, break
: footpegs off, break handlebars, stretch
: frames and bend forks, but those
: "collateral damage" items pale in
: comparison with sucking ramp or flatlanding
: from four times as high.
:
: Regardless, in a strange way, we have to
: keep ramp to ground jump listings alive.
: Maybe someday motorcycle suspension will be
: so advanced, with 36" of travel, that a
: rider will be able to hit a 25 degree launch
: ramp at 100 miles per hour and jump 500
: feet, ramp to ground.
:
: Not that long ago, the world records in ramp
: to ground and ramp to ramp weren't that far
: apart. Nowadays, the world record in ramp to
: ramp fully doubles that of the ramp to
: ground category.
:
: It wouldn't be wise to jump ramp to ground
: much farther than 200 feet. Motorcycle
: suspension technology has a long way to go
: before a motorcycle can comfortably flatland
: at 300 or 400 feet.
:
: And sure, a guy can go out there and stay
: ultra-low, going ultra-fast, and do it. Any
: way you look at it, you pay a price in
: either speed or suspension.
:
: Flatlanding is easy, it's low-tech, but it
: hits like a conventional Peterbilt with
: sleeper, right in the shorts, and it's
: bringin' the pain.
:
: JA
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: Bob Gill comes to mind
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: Some British dude named Flyin' Ryan (he's
: not
: Hawaiian) is going to try to break Eddie
: Kidd's long-standing record of 195 (194?)
: feet on May 30th.
:
: The idea of flatlandng on purpose is beyond
: my comprehension.
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